Thoughts?

I've seen alot of negativity lately!

People seem fed up with not getting rich over night anymore..

I don't know if Bitcoin will ever reach new ATHs, i sure hope so, but it seems like people are frustrated that it doesn't feel super hyped anymore.

But nothing can hold its hype constant over a long period.. Other things also happens in the world, and people do have other focuses. Right now AI is drawing alot of attention, and thats just the way it is.

Maybe BTC & crypto will one day again have the focus.

Do you remember in 2019 after the bull-run that got everyones eye on BTC?

It went from 20k to 6k then 3k.. People was talking exactly like they do now.. "It was a nice run" and it felt like there was no Energy left in BTC, and people were focusing on other stuff.

Well.. that is 7 years ago... Now bitcoin is at 82k and people are saying the same stuff..

What about zooming out for a moment.. Imagine if you had bought at 6k & 3k?? That wouldn't be so bad would it..

One of the main reasons I like bitcoin is that it reduces participation in the system of debt entrapment. When you hold fiat in a bank account, you're participating in lending that money out (and more) to others who have to pay it back, plus a lot of interest.

If you hold bitcoin in your own wallet, that money isn't lent out to anyone.

20,100,000 20/Oct/2026

20,200,000 30/May/2027

20,300,000 7/Jan/2028

20,400,000 18/Dec/2028

20,500,000 8/March/2030

20,600,000 26/May/2031

20,700,000 2/Jul/2033

20,800,000 2035

20,900,000 2039

21,000,000 2140

Hello,

Where should I store my bitcoin these days?

Goal is to just let it appreciate and never interact with decentralized finance.

I was about to purchase a Ledger but after reading what has transpired I’ve decided to keep looking.

Right now I’m split 50/50 between Fidelity and Coinbase.

Thank you.

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I hate working 45 hours a week.

I want to start learning and using trading, but how, where can I learn and where can I buy

serious question. I think one of the genuine bull cases for continued Bitcoin price appreciation is that it exists as one of the easiest means of transaction for gray and black market business. whether this is morally good is not my point and is irrelevant to the case. it matters because extra legal transactions are, will, and have always been a decent share of an economy

so my question is, does anyone have estimates on these market movements? I’d be curious about volatility and what amount of illicit funding flows through BTC. not that anyone would know. for example though I’ve seen reporting that Russia subverts tariffs by transacting in Bitcoin. large multinationals, nation states, etc

Bitcoin to $150,000 by April. Anyone else agree?

i want to buy something online and they want to send me a bitpay invoice.. i guess its like paypal where your address and everything is put in so they know where to send it and stuff.

do i need a bitpay account for this? or does bitpay send me a email with a qr code or something i can scan with my phone to pay with my phone wallet? i dont have bitpay or use the bitpay wallet.

if i have to id like to know in advance if i need to setup an account and move some bitcoin to it.

I’m a financial engineering grad student at Stevens, and I’ve been asking regular savers about Bitcoin for a project. Many of them don’t own any.

JPMorgan just sold five year notes tied to Bitcoin, and options on BlackRock’s Bitcoin ETF are listed out to January 2029. Yet Gallup found in June that only 9% of American adults own any crypto, down from 14% the year before.

And if someone you know finally came around, what changed their mind?

I know a little about Bitcoin, but I’m not deeply immersed in the space. Perhaps that allows me to see things from the perspective of people outside the Bitcoin community as well.
Gold, besides being a store of value, has practical applications in jewelry, electronics, and other industries. Bitcoin, on the other hand, relies on demand for its digital and monetary properties, such as its programmed scarcity and the ability to transfer value without traditional intermediaries.
My question is: how much of Bitcoin’s value comes from its actual utility, and how much depends on the expectation that someone else will pay more for it in the future?

I believe that, to grow more sustainably, Bitcoin needs to move beyond speculation. Being widely known as an investment is not enough; it needs broader real-world adoption, especially as a means of payment and transferring value.

After all, limited supply does not guarantee demand. Could real-world adoption be what’s missing for Bitcoin to justify its value in the long term?

Hi everyone,

I live in New York City and want to buy BTC, but I’m unable to open an account with a cryptocurrency exchange.
Are there other legitimate ways to buy Bitcoin in NYC and transfer it to my own wallet?
If you’ve been in a similar situation, I’d appreciate hearing what worked for you and what fees or requirements I should expect.

Thanks!

What is the one you use? I am looking for one without ads and premium paywalls etc, just a simple exchange calculator.

Ask (and answer!) away! Here are the general rules:

• If you'd like to learn something, ask.
• If you'd like to share knowledge, answer.
• Any question about Bitcoin is fair game.

And don't forget to check out /r/BitcoinBeginners

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I sold my condo and tonight’s the last night here.
I am mourning as if I had lost st or done a wrong move. I will buy BTC with the proceeds, and let it sit in my hard wallet .

I never lived here but I bought it in 2014 and it has been part of my life since then. It’s in Calgary, and I’m a digital nomad so I’m always travelling.

The condo was rented out, but regardless I am mourning. Idk, it’s just that now I am actually a nomad. I’m 61 so maybe I’m old

At a time in our life when ppl buy a home or pay off their mortgage I sold mine to make the road my home.

Do you HODL, Spend, Stake, utilize the LN⚡️, etc.?
I do a bit of each, considering I’m trying to covert to the Bitcoin standard.

Is it worth hiding your addresses from the server your wallet talks to, or is that overkill for a normal holder?

Genuine question. Full disclosure first: I built a small tool for this, but no link and no name, because I honestly don't know if it should exist outside my own circle.

The problem as I see it: unless you run your own node, your wallet asks someone else's server about your addresses. In Sparrow the easy choice is a public server, and that server can learn which addresses are yours, roughly how much you hold, and your IP.

A friend of mine holds bitcoin and couldn't care less about any of this. Explaining didn't work, so I made him a Mac app that connects Sparrow through an encrypted tunnel to a node I run, and keeps Sparrow's settings locked so he can't get it wrong. It works for him.

My questions for you:

1. Is "leak as little as possible about your BTC activity" good practice for everyone, or paranoia for someone who isn't doing anything special?

2. Is a middle step like this actually useful? I know the real answer is "run your own node", and I agree that's the goal. Sparrow also has Tor. But most people I know will never run a node.

The obvious weakness, before anyone says it: whoever runs the node (me) could see my friend's addresses. He's just trusting me instead of a stranger. There's also a mode that points the app at your own node through your own WireGuard tunnel, so nothing passes through me, but it needs a specific setup (WireGuard, Electrum server over TLS, mempool) and I've only tested it on my own installation.

Not selling anything. Real problem or made-up one?

Ive set up a wallet in about 4 different places, except every time i try to transfer money for bitcoin they require id verification or ssn, which im not a huge fan of. i’ve tried using p2p markets like bisq, but they require a bitcoin deposit which i dont have since i cant transfer any of my money into bitcoin.

This past week: S&P 500 dropped 2.5%, QQQ dropped 6.5%.

BTC was only down 1.5% and never dipped below 80k.

Pretty impressive it’s holding up so well with oil soaring and yields elevated.

Growing in confidence each day that we are headed much much higher once macro conditions improve.

I will get to 0.5 soon enough, and I will probably leave it at that, and spending money more on other ways to improve my life in the present; the best investment is yourself.

Could get a personal trainer, car, some hobby, anything that will be opened up to me as bitcoin wont be sucking my fiat in the same way a gay vampire sucks a bleeding dick.

I think 0.5 is a good number. I believe you must split your finances as if you would live 50 more days, and 50 more years.

Of course I will through in more btc here and there, but I am sick of depriving myself of fun and pleasure to reach some arbitrary number of btc.

Hello puzzle‑hunters,

I am investigating the “Securing Wealth in Poetry” seed‑passphrase puzzle (0.03 BTC reward, address 1K4ezpLybootYF23TM4a8Y4NyP7auysnRo).

Current working hypothesis: [briefly note which pattern you are testing — e.g. “first‑letter acrostic across poem stanzas” / “Trithemius‑style progressive‑shift extraction”]

Source‑text version used: [note source/archive link if available; mention whether you confirmed it is the original unedited Securing Wealth in Poetry]

Partial candidate observations: [list partial letter/word leads only; avoid posting complete suspected seed‑phrases publicly]

Checks completed so far: [reference items from our checklist: e.g. “checked first‑ & last‑letter acrostics; tested fixed‑position word picks”]

Open questions: [what you are unsure about — e.g. “uncertain whether cipher applies to poem only or whole article; unclear exact shift‑starting rule for Trithemius‑style decoding”]

Request: Does anyone have verified original‑article archives, or prior documented failed attempts for this puzzle to share?

Note: No full seed‑phrase confirmed yet; all leads remain unvalidated.

I’ve been looking around for apps that I can transfer money into to trade with bitcoin and I’ve done a lot of research and looking learned how transactions work and all that stuff still learning, but I want to experiment more with trading so is there any apps out there that can be used at the age of 14 or higher cause I am I looked around and I can’t find anything. I already traded on Cash app, which is allowed, but I’m unable to trade of other coins on there, so I’m just wondering if anybody has found anything and I’ve looked into non-custodial wallets and I’m unsure about those too sounds like some advice and any anywhere or anything I can trade on that’s safe of course if it even exists

I’m genuinely surprised how start the difference is.

I wish the r/bitcoin sub had more bitcoin only redditors, unfortunately not everyone is as educated on bitcoin vs crypto

Has anyone used blue wallet? Is it secure?

A question for the OGs and those who joined more recently.

It’s always easy to advise others to "HODL" when you’re in the green or have already weathered a few ups and downs.

I’d be interested to hear about the journey you’ve taken so far and what you’ve had to endure to get to where you are today.

-50%? -80%?

Were you tempted to sell?
Did you buy more?
Did you give up, only to regret it later?
Or did you sell and have no regrets?

Tell us about your own personal stations of the cross.

Title: Put 55k RUB into BTC at $120k, now it's 40k RUB at $85k — got 30k cash, what would you do?

Hey everyone, long-time lurker, first-time poster. Need some honest advice from people who've been through a full cycle.

My situation:
• Put 55k RUB (~120k** — yes, bought the top, please be gentle
• That position is now worth about 40k RUB (~85k**
• So I'm down roughly 27% on paper
• Just got 30k RUB (~$370) as a gift, sitting in cash
What I'm wondering:
1. Is it worth DCA-ing this 30k into BTC at $85k right now, or should I wait for a dip to $75-78k?
2. Should I just hold the cash and forget about it for a few months?
3. Or is it smarter to average down my existing position rather than open a new one?
I know nobody has a crystal ball. I'm not looking for "buy now, 100x guaranteed" — I want to hear how you'd actually play this if you were in my shoes. Lump sum? DCA? Wait? Cut losses?

Any input appreciated. Thanks.

he Bitcoin community constantly preaches DCA and hold forever. But many active traders make larger returns from swing / intraday trades using BTC derivatives.

Hodlers say trading gets you wiped out by leverage and emotion.
Traders say static buy-and-hold wastes massive volatility opportunities.

Which strategy actually has better long-term expectancy?

I was looking at what would have happened if you invested €100/month into BTC, starting in different years and holding until October 2026.
Here are the approximate results:

I calculated what investing €100/month into BTC from different starting years would be worth today (October 2026).
Here are the approximate results:
2011: €19,000 invested → €78.9M
2012: €17,800 invested → €17.9M
2013: €16,600 invested → €2.31M
2014: €15,400 invested → €879K
2015: €14,200 invested → €634K
2016: €13,000 invested → €273K
2017: €11,800 invested → €97K
2018: €10,600 invested → €53K
2019: €9,400 invested → €38K
2020: €8,200 invested → €22K
2021: €7,000 invested → €13K
2022: €5,800 invested → €11K
2023: €4,600 invested → €6.9K
2024: €3,400 invested → €3.6K
2025: €2,200 invested → €2.2K
Approximate simulation using BTC at ~€72,700. Excludes fees and taxes.
Obviously, early investors benefited massively. But with BTC now being a much more mature asset, can we realistically expect strong returns going forward?

I keep reading about people that got in early and made a killing, and I’m genuinely happy for them. But let’s look at it from current the viewpoint of current day investor, that are just starting out… does dca still make sense?

If "In God we trust" is the motto of the US dollar, what should the motto be for Bitcoin? I was drinking last night and started thinking about this. :)

Bitcoin analysis as of Oct 18, 2026

Bitcoin is trading at about $81,700, roughly 35% below its all-time high of about $126,000 (Oct 6, 2025).

What drove each window

• Since inception: Bitcoin went from a tenth of a cent to six figures. The big steps were the 2011, 2013, 2017, 2021 and 2025 cycle peaks, each followed by a crash of 50% to 93%. Spot ETFs were approved in 2024.
• 10 years: This window includes most of the early-cycle gains. The growth rate has faded as the asset has grown.
• 5 years: You’d be up about 33%, or roughly 6% a year, even though the price is far above the 2021 low. The 2021 peak (~$69k) was followed by a 2022 crash and then the 2025 high.
• 1 year: The decline reflects the post-peak correction. A Feb 2026 selloff took the price to about $63,000, with drivers cited including the U.S.–Iran crisis and money rotating from Bitcoin ETFs into AI stocks. The low came in June at about $57,800, when the price fell about 18% in the month and the Fear & Greed Index hit “Extreme Fear” (15).
• 6 months: The price rose from about $75,000 to a peak near $83,000 in May. It then dropped to the June low and recovered sharply.
• 3 months: This is the rebound. August gained about 25% and September about 8%, and sentiment moved from fear toward greed.
• 1 month: September’s rally topped out around $86,600 on Sep 21, after the Fed raised rates to 3.75–4.00% on Sep 16, and the price has chopped sideways since. Headwinds include August CPI at 3.4%, Brent crude near $103, and the failed CLARITY Act Senate vote.
• 1 week: The price slipped about 3% in the first part of the week. A weak September jobs report (+29k) briefly lifted it, but spot ETFs saw about $681 million in net outflows over Oct 5–9, and about $1 billion in profit-taking was reported around Oct 8.
• Today: Very thin weekend trading, with about 657 BTC of volume on Kraken. Nothing is moving the price until US ETF flow data and futures markets reopen Monday. Upcoming catalysts are the FOMC decision on Oct 28 and Deribit options expiry on Oct 30.

Summary

The longer trend is still strongly up, but returns have been shrinking cycle after cycle. The 1-year picture is negative because the price is still recovering from the October 2025 peak. Over the past 3 to 6 months it has rebounded about 26% from the summer lows and is now stuck in a range of roughly $80,000 to $87,000. Short-term direction depends on the Fed, inflation and oil, and ETF flows. Some analysts say Bitcoin has exited its bear market, citing a move back above its 365-day moving average. Others point out that the all-time high is still far away, and none of this is a forecast. This is analysis, not financial advice.

My Guess

It will be $165,000 for a Bitcoin in 4 years (2030).

Hey traders, my AI tracking model flagged Bitcoin testing a critical Fibonacci support around $81,443.

Whale activity is showing mixed signals, so it's a bit of a coin toss here. If it holds, we could see a move up to $85k, but a break below $78k would be a major concern.

What are your thoughts on this level? Are you leaning bullish or bearish here?

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Forgive the novice question: if I transfer BTC off an exchange to my self-custody cold wallet (Jade) and use the Blockstream app to view the balance…is the app just giving me the value allocated to that bitcoin address? I don’t want my keys stored anywhere so trying to understand how the app is working to ensure I am as off-line as possible.

I lost money that wasn't mine in trading. I lost 4k$ I had borrowed for trading; it was gone in the blink of an eye. Please don't enter this field with money that isn't yours.

Also, what are other black swan events that could shock the price of bitcoin up or down?

A vanity address is one where you pick the first few characters and let a program grind through keys until one matches. We rewrote our glossary entry on them this week (the old one had the split-key part backwards, more on that below) and figured we should run a couple of searches ourselves instead of quoting other people’s numbers.

Setup: VanitySearch on a MacBook Pro with an M3 Max, 12 CPU threads, no GPU. About 74 million keys a second once the machine wasn’t doing anything else.

Search 1: 1LearnBTC, letter case ignored. Found 1LeArNBtcECPZj7Bd5oeNcUJnhpVddy81U after 46 minutes and about 203 billion tries. That’s half the average for the pattern, so we got a bit lucky.

Search 2: bc1qlearn8tc, exact. Found bc1qlearn8tcerg966qrqtwaelyt06fq2ze7zrsg9t after 6 hours and 1 minute and about 1.24 trillion tries. 12 percent more than average, so slightly unlucky.

Why the gap? Both patterns pick eight characters. But bech32 addresses are all lowercase, so there is no “any case” shortcut. In the legacy search most letters had two chances out of 58 to match (e or E, a or A, and so on), which cuts the work a lot. On average the bech32 job was 2.7 times bigger. The gap from 2.7x to 8x was luck. A vanity search is a lottery you keep playing until you win, and sometimes you win early.

Two things we learned writing it up:

• The bech32 alphabet has no 1, b, i or o. So bc1qlearnbtc is impossible, which is why we searched for bc1qlearn8tc instead.
• Never let a website generate a vanity address for you. Whoever generated the key can spend from it, whatever they promise. Run the tool yourself, or use split-key generation, where you keep a secret the searcher never sees. Our old entry said neither side sees the full key with split-key. That was wrong: you do, the searcher doesn’t. Fixed, and logged on our corrections page.

Full entry, free, no ads: https://www.learnbitcoin.com/glossary/vanity-address

I’m looking for a reliable crypto exchange where I can buy Bitcoin using ACH or bank wire transfers and withdraw it directly to my own Trust Wallet.
I’ve had issues with Coinbase, Gemini, Cash App, and Kraken restricting withdrawals, so I’m looking for an alternative with transparent hold policies, reasonable fees, and reliable customer support.
Has anyone used Strike or River for larger Bitcoin purchases and successfully withdrawn to their own wallet?
I’d appreciate recommendations based on your personal experience. Thanks!

I got tired of reading Bitcoin cycle analyses (halving timing, buy zones, “sell 25% at H+12”) and then having to turn them into numbers by hand. So I built BTC Cycle Planner, a desktop app that does it for me.

What it is

A local app, not a signal service and not a trading bot. It never touches an exchange or a wallet.

What it does

• Reads documents (PDF, TXT, MD) and extracts the numeric parameters with plain, inspectable rules. Every extracted value shows the page and the exact text it came from.
• Merges several documents. The most recent one wins, and conflicting values are flagged.
• Builds a plan from those parameters, live price and indicators (CoinGecko, Fear & Greed) and your capital. The plan covers:
  • where you are in the cycle;
  • a buy ladder, with zones re-anchored to the current power-law floor;
  • a daily “drip” while price is below the floor;
  • a front-loaded DCA with boosts and a kill-switch;
  • a scheduled exit plan.
• Has a chart tab with live price (60 s polling), ladder bands, power-law fair value and floor, invalidation levels, the expected bottom window and the planned exits. It supports log scale, click-to-measure, and PNG export.
• Warns you about its own weak spots. It flags single-source bias, promotional content, diverging bottom estimates, the tiny sample behind the “4-year cycle”, and runs a stress test on the ladder’s average entry price.
• It is bilingual (Italian and English), has an in-app guide with search, and updates itself from GitHub releases.

What it is NOT

• It doesn’t predict anything. It mechanically applies whatever the documents say.
• It’s only as good as the documents you feed it. The extraction rules were built around a specific set of English-language cycle PDFs, so other documents may only be partly understood.
• It’s an educational tool, not financial advice. The 4-year cycle rests on four observations, and ETFs and institutions may well break it.

Stack: Python 3.9+, PyQt6, pyqtgraph, pypdf. Installers for Windows, macOS and Linux are built by GitHub Actions.

Repo and releases: https://github.com/enkas79/BTC_Cycle

I’d especially like feedback on three things:

1. Which other document formats or authors should the extractor support?
2. Which warnings are missing from the “critical partner” section?
3. Is the plan logic reasonable, or would you structure the exit differently?

Leggo analisi sul ciclo di Bitcoin (tempi dagli halving, zone di acquisto, “vendi il 25% a H+12”) e poi devo trasformarle in numeri a mano. Per questo ho scritto BTC Cycle Planner.

Cos’è: un’app locale. Non è un servizio di segnali né un bot, e non tocca exchange o wallet.

Cosa fa:

• legge PDF/TXT/MD ed estrae i parametri con regole trasparenti, mostrando pagina e frammento di testo di ogni valore;
• unisce più documenti (vince il più recente, i conflitti sono segnalati);
• genera il piano con prezzo e indicatori di mercato e con il tuo capitale: fase del ciclo, ladder di acquisto riancorata al floor della power law, drip giornaliero, DCA con boost e kill-switch, piano di uscita;
• ha una scheda grafico con prezzo live e livelli, scala log, uscite, click per misurare ed esportazione PNG;
• ti avvisa dei suoi stessi limiti: fonte unica, contenuti promozionali, stime divergenti, campione minimo del “ciclo di 4 anni”, stress test;
• è in italiano e inglese e ha una guida integrata con ricerca.

Cosa non è: non prevede nulla, applica meccanicamente ciò che dicono i documenti, e le regole di estrazione sono costruite su un insieme specifico di PDF in inglese. È uno strumento educativo, non consulenza finanziaria.

Repo: https://github.com/enkas79/BTC_Cycle. Cerco feedback su formati da supportare, avvertenze mancanti e logica di uscita.

I moved all my Bitcoins to multisig (one seed per hardware wallet vendor). But now I face a new problem: quantum attacks. I'm in the 23% of addresses at risk because I did "warm up" my bc1q... (native segwit multisig / P2WSH) address by first sending a few sats and verifying I could then move them.

For I was there in the early days when bogus addresses (but valid) were generated and then people couldn't move their coins anymore. So I learned that lesson and ALWAYS verify that I can indeed sign transactions.

Now as it is multisig I understand there are two secrets to crack, so it's harder than coins on singlesig.

And I made sure to stay underneath the "satoshi wall".

I could find addresses from my multisig wallet by taking the two Zpub and deriving addresses but... Is there a relatively easy way that when the day comes I'll really be able to sign transactions moving the coins without broadcasting any info?

Should I for example use Sparrow in offline mode and see if I can prepare a signed transaction and then use a transaction decoder ? And I'd then be reasonably sure that a) the multisig address instead belongs to me and b) I'll be able to move the coins when comes the day I want to move them?

Or is there a way to run a fake Bitcoin node (using a modified codebase) on my own LAN (not connected to the Internet) and simulate transactions there? Is there an easy way to do that?

Basically: it's a lot of money to me and I'm scared to send coins to an address that hasn't been "warmed up".

Hi I came across this travala ad which claims it lets you book hotels and flights using crypto. I didn't see much convincing reviews about it, but binance follows them on X.

I'm planning to book my flights but need someone's legit experience.

Saw an anon guy comment somewhere that they asked for the "source of his crypto" and held his coins and didn't refund or book the tickets.

Thanks in advance.

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Add your version of enjoyment in it. Pls, no buying the dip in this one, that's a valid, but separate issue.

All the money in the S&P500 is about to pour into Bitcoin after a few basis point drops.

They tell you to dollar cost average. They tell you it's a hedge against inflation and currency debasement.

But after over two full years of consistent buys, watching the price consolidate while everyday living expenses continue to climb, the reality looks very different.

Losing hope on this, it’s wasting my time

Throwaway because reasons.

With all the hacks lately in the BTC ecosystem, I'm a little bit paranoid. This week I purchased a Pi zero 1.3 from Adafruit and a Waveshare display hat directly from Waveshare - it is shipped from China.

I am making a Seedsigner. Are they ways to test the hardware to make sure it is genuine or has not been altered such as you can do with software signatures? What should I look for physically?

Thanks,

A paranoid bitcoiner

Anyone else mulling over how BTC or even the value of the Canadian Dollar may react as the Albertan referendum approaches?

I know what the polls say, I know what various news sources are saying, but I can't help but wonder what happens to CAD if the provincial referendum passes, and America swoops in for the assist because OIL, completely ignoring the country-wide 'permission' referendum.

Should Canadians be thinking of BTC as backup savings in the case of CAD decline?

Bitcoin Bancorp was the winning bidder earlier this month for a chunk of Bitcoin Depot’s assets out of the Chapter 11 case. That includes roughly 2,446 ATM kiosks, floorspace agreements, parts inventory, IP, trademarks, patents, and the BitcoinDepot.com domain.

Some portions have already closed and they’re taking possession of those. The rest is still subject to the usual conditions, with remaining closings expected this month.

Hello everyone

I wanted to create a multisig for example 3 of 5 using sparrow wallet as the coordinator.

I wanted signers to be mix of hardware wallets and software wallets:

- hardware wallet

- hardware wallet

- hardware wallet

- bitcoin core

- electrum

But i'm having a lot of difficulty getting the software wallets to work with sparrow (or being confident/comfortable that it's working as intended and won't have issues)

My issues and concerns:

- Electrum when creating a standard single sig gives a derivation path of m/0h (not the m/48'/0'/0'/2' derivation path that sparrow is looking for) and a zpub (not an xpub).

- I asked AI and it then kept telling me that's wrong and to create a multisig wallet in electrum but just don't give the xpubs of the co-signers. But electrum forces you to add co-signers and then AI said, just give it fake xpubs! I'm not sure/confident this is correct way to have electrum added as a co-signer to sparrow coordinator even if it did accept it.

- Bitcoin core gives a single sig derivation path of: 84h/0h/0h (again not the m/48'/0'/'0/2' derivation path sparrow is looking for)

- I believe h is same as ' so in sparrow anywhere there is an h I should substitute it with an '?

- Is this not possible? If it is possible, is it not advisable to do? It seems very few people have tried this and maybe even fewer have software wallets like bitcoin core and electrum as co-signers with sparrow coordinator.

The reason I wanted to do this was to diversify signers and to have some signers that were not hardware wallets. Software wallets would have their own laptop.

Please help! I wanted to at least test/try it to see how I feel about the process, signing, backups, restoring, etc. It sounded nice to me on paper.

Thank you

I built a free Bitcoin retirement simulator and tried something simple: same 2 BTC, same $3,000 a month, and the only thing I changed was when the spending starts.

• Start now: the stack lasts until about 2036
• Start in 2030: it lasts until about 2050

Waiting looks like a free win. But the model assumes the price keeps rising over the long run, so waiting just means selling at higher prices.

Then I made the price fall 70% right after the 2030 start. Same coins, same spending, and it runs out in 2037 instead of 2050.

Thirteen years of difference, just from timing.

Do you build a crash into your own plan, or just a smooth line?

It's a model, not a forecast. The simulator is free with no signup if you want to try your own numbers: https://bitcoinlifespan.com/

https://reddit.com/link/1x7d69x/video/a3siqysr8tvh1/player

Will AI agents choose Bitcoin over dollars? Jack sees the long-term fit, but says AI companies aren’t asking for Bitcoin integrations yet.

What would make Bitcoin useful enough for them to switch?

Most people keep Bitcoin as an investment. A lot of people don't even have real Bitcoin, but paper that represents Bitcoin (ETF).

However, those that are in it for the money revolution, what are you actually using it for?

Would you rather spend Bitcoin online or at a brick-and-mortar store?

Do you gift Bitcoin as a birthday present?

What else?

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I’ve had a small amount in bitcoin for a while from what my sibling gave me. He recommended weekly investing. Thoughts on adding $20 in weekly? Is that realistically going to amount to anything? Thanks for any info!

Let me preface this post by saying I know virtually nothing about Bitcoin or crypto in general. Back in 2015, I purchased a small amount of Bitcoin on QuickBT (which shut down in 2018) to fund a sportsbook account I had. Long story short, I had some issues transferring the Bitcoin over and I'm not sure if I ever figured it out. I recently found the Bitcoin address in my emails and, based on a Bitcoin address lookup website, it still appears to be valid and contains what is now a decent chunk of coin.

My question for you guys is: How can I retrieve this Bitcoin? Is that even possible? All I have, to my knowledge, is the address.

Thanks in advance, and let me know if I didn't provide enough information.

Trying to follow more people that called the current bottom we have, so far I only have

Ansem(memecoin kol) and crypto currently( youtuber) is there anyone else and what is there general sentiment.

Im very newbie in bitcoin, i just buy some sats every week for the last year, i buy from binance and send it to a blue wallet when it stacks.

Dont know really too much about safety and privacy, but the latest update on blue wallet app has a button to buy cripto straight from the wallet, it requires an google or apple account to do it, how safe and private is to put an email on a blue wallet ? Should i do it instead from buying from binance ?

I have a blockchain account with more than 1 Bicton balance any one interested dm me

Today’s sell-off is being described as a leverage flush. That may explain why the move was so fast, but forced selling and genuine demand are two different things.

Liquidations close existing positions. They do not tell us whether new buyers are entering the market. The latest U.S. spot Bitcoin ETF session also showed net outflows, so the immediate question is not simply whether leverage has cleared. It is whether anyone is replacing it with spot demand.

That seems more useful than asking whether Bitcoin will bounce. What data do you think best shows genuine demand returning?

I've been attending Peter Thiel's 4-part lecture series in Nashville. Night 3 moved directly from macro-history into operational statecraft and financial architecture.

While he speaks in theological terms, his analysis of international compliance grids touches directly on base-layer neutrality, state capture, and censorship resistance.

Here is the breakdown of his thesis:

1. The velocity bottleneck: Thiel argues that world-historical consolidation no longer happens through individual; charismatic conquest. Human biology and gerontocracy run out of time. To achieve global scale in late modernity, power shifts from aging political figures to non-linear, automated financial and regulatory software.
2. Turnkey totalitarianism and the enclosure net: He traces the rapid construction of an inescapable global compliance apparatus over the last 25 years:

Financial rules: FATCA, FinCEN, SWIFT tracking, the OECD's Common Reporting Standard, and the destruction of banking secrecy creating an automated borderless enforcement grid.

Universal jurisdiction: Bodies like the ICC operating above Westphalian state boundaries to restrict physical mobility via borderless legal warrants.

1. The dual-use paradox: In lecture 1, Thiel suggested decentralized software could act as protective digital katechons. In lecture 3, he concedes the structural flip side: any high-capability data or financial architecture can be inverted at the flip of a switch.

The predictive software, data-fusion platforms, and telemetry systems built to maintain order (acting as a protective katechon) are functionally identical to and instantly convertible into a turnkey compliance grid.

Full breakdown here:

Night 1: https://danielforresternash.substack.com/p/what-night-one-left-out

Night 2: https://danielforresternash.substack.com/p/the-counterfeit-church-and-the-epimethean

Night 3: https://danielforresternash.substack.com/p/the-physics-of-consolidation-velocity

Curious to hear how the sub evaluates his timeline on financial enclosure.

I used the local trader on mycelium wallet. I swapped them for cash. Face to face.

Anyone who asked here , when to buy and is it a good time to buy, you have your answer. Market is red and it's time to buy. Don't be that person who is afraid to buy crypto now. For those who already own it, it's time to stack the stats and keep the DCA going.

I'm a university student who lives with his parents, and have almost no expenditures. I also live in a country that offers a student loan with an interest rate of around 2%. I'm sure that Bitcoin in the next couple of years will outperform the interest and give me a solid profit even after paying back the loan. Let's say that I invest 1300 Euros a month for 3-4 years, and pay back a few years later when Bitcoin trades around $300-700k. I'll be able to pay back the loan and keep a good amount of money. It's risky yeah, but I firmly believe that Bitcoin is going to $1M one day in the next 15 years, so I'm not really that worried. The ROI from Bitcoin until 2030-2034 will absolutely outperform the interest on this loan and allow me to pay it back completely while keeping a good amount of money.

Let me know what you think. I haven't made the decision yet or taken out the loan, so that's why I'm asking because I want to hear other people's perspective before I make an informed decision.

I was just curious after this incident of people's bitcoin getting stolen.

Thanks

EDIT- Thank you for the answers/replies. Unfortunately I'm not planning anything ????. I hope you all have success in life ✌️

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Imagine two businesses generating similar revenue.

The first immediately converts every Bitcoin payment into fiat.
The second covers its operating expenses and keeps a small portion in BTC.

If Bitcoin appreciates significantly over the next few years, the second business could build a financial reserve that the first never accumulated.
Without raising capital, bringing in new investors, or increasing sales.

But if Bitcoin loses value, that same decision could weaken its balance sheet.

At Onbely Verse, we accept Bitcoin as payment for our technology services, including Onbely Links. We believe Bitcoin's role in business could go beyond simply offering another payment option.

Could holding a portion of Bitcoin revenue become a long-term competitive advantage?

Do you think businesses that start accumulating BTC through their commercial activity today will be better positioned ten years from now, or is the financial risk simply not worth it?

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Hey friends, recently been trading and lost a couple millions sats. Which I admit is a little bit embarrassing. My only solution to keep myself from trading and also try to scoop up sats a little cheaper, I decided to set up Auto-Invest in Cashapp. Is there any places that help accelerate those dca buys? I've kind of heard of such a thing with invity but don't know how credible they are.

Any helpful feedback is appreciated.

I found him on a forum and he came with a lot of vetted reviews that I crossed referenced on other forms he seemed legit and from all sources at the time that was the best place one could buy bitcoin with USD over the Internet at the time.

He posted up under a distinct tree that was obviously his zone/shop and was conducting business all day seemingly every day. Payments through paypal then you sent your btc address in second life chat, waited and prayed

just thought about this again and was curious how far the branches of his "exchange" really reached/if anyone else remembers this

also, magical btc tree man: if you have any more btc left at $11 pls dm ????????????

I just lost my all my saving in trading over a course of 3 weeks I've been trading what took me 6 months to save up. How do I cope? Im so depressed now

I'm new to bitcoin and i have a question. isn't bitcoin suppose to protect our savings against inflation? why the bitcoin price are going down when the govt inflation number are higher?

I wanted to rotate my BTC keys and made a post (https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1phbgrk/generating\_and\_storing\_a\_btc\_private\_key/) but that seemed a bit too complex. People also suggested that 2/3-multisig is better approach than to split a single seed.

My current plan is:

There are a few goals to achieve:

• Redundancy
• Plausible Deniability against Wrench Attacks
• Simplicity
• Robustness against idiosyncratic failures of individual hardware or software

Seed-Generation:

3 Devices: 1) Nano Ledger S, 2) Trezor 3) Coldcard MK4 (Dice Rolls)

All three locations store the multisig descriptor.

Store each device with their raw seed (cryptosteel) in three physically different locations.

Wdyt?

Setting ETF costs aside (I currently pay 0.25% for FBTC), what is the benefit of buying the actual coin and self storing. It is not like you are going to conduct a transaction. I am pretty sure 99+% of folks are just in it as an investment.

There are all kinds of issues we hear about stolen wallets and besides someone dying is the biggest of the risks. Would your spouse or kids even know who to track down your crypto wallet??

Whenever I try to introduce friends to the original Satoshi idea of using peer-to-peer digital cash for simple everyday settlements (splitting dinner, paying someone back), the friction always becomes the sticking point.

Explaining fee markets, channel liquidity, routing failures, or waiting multiple confirmations usually ends with them just asking for my PayPal or cash.

What setup or wallet experience currently comes closest to frictionless peer-to-peer transactions in your day-to-day use?

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Spent the last three weeks trying to set up a basic trust for my family because I don't want my stack lost forever if something stupid happens to me

The amount of "professional" estate attorneys who charge $600/hr and still think bitcoin is a physical coin stored on a usb stick is mind blowing. one guy literally suggested I just sell it all for ETFs so it's "easier to manage on paper". like yeah, defeat the whole purpose of self custody, great idea man.

Eventually just had to route it through dag for the legal structuring because trying to teach a 65 year old lawyer what a seed phrase is was actually draining my soul.

How are you guys handling this? do you just leave a physical treasure map for your kids or what? The legacy legal system is so hopelessly far behind.

Every four years or so, Bitcoin cuts the block reward miners receive in half. I find it fascinating that this rule is built into Bitcoin code rather than decided by a central authority.

Given the recently compromised hardware wallets (Coldcard and Ledger) is the only way to be reasonably assured your wallet is safe to create a multisig wallet with each seed created by a different device or method? For example a 3 of 3 wallet where one seed is created by a Trezor, the second is created by a Ledger, and the third seed is generated with dice roles.

BUT

If anyone could take a punt I’d be more than grateful.

I have around 0.05 BTC and investing £100 a month. With price increases, when could I expect to reach 0.1?

After the reports of tampered devices with extra hardware hidden inside, I wanted a simple way for people to check whether their wallet matches a known-good one. So I built tampercheck.org.

How it works:

• You post photos of your device (front, back, seams, ports, the box, and the board if you’ve opened it), plus its weight and dimensions.
• Other people look it over and vote: looks genuine, unsure, or suspicious, with comments on what they see.
• Verified units build up reference weights for each model, so you can weigh yours and see whether it’s off. Added components usually add measurable weight.
• There’s also a short guide on what to check: red flags, weighing, USB checks, and what to look for inside.

The important bits:

• It will never ask for your recovery phrase, PIN or passphrase, and nobody legitimate ever will. Text that looks like a recovery phrase is rejected automatically.
• No accounts, no trackers, and location data is stripped from photos.
• It’s for any brand, not just Ledger, and it isn’t affiliated with Ledger or any other manufacturer.
• Community votes aren’t proof. Always run the official Genuine Check too.

It’s new and still somewhat under construction, so expect rough edges. I’d really appreciate:

• Feedback: what’s confusing, broken or missing?
• Reference submissions: if you bought your device directly from Ledger and have a scale that reads to 0.01 g, a weight and a few photos would help build the baseline everyone else compares against.
• Suspicious devices: if you have one, post it so others can learn from it.

Thanks, and happy to answer questions in the comments.

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Hey everyone,

I've been deeply involved with Bitcoin for about four years now. During that time, I've watched countless videos, read books, and immersed myself more and more in the subject. Of course, I know that nobody can predict the future and that Bitcoin doesn't guarantee anything either.

Nevertheless, I've had the feeling that my perspective on life has fundamentally changed since then. And not necessarily for the better.

I actually work in my absolute dream job. It's exactly what I wanted to do when I was a child. I'm a master painter and work as an instructor at a school. I teach young people and also support them with personal and social problems. So, in many ways, I've found something that has always been important to me.

But ever since I started thinking so intensively about Bitcoin, money, power, and the structures of our world, a lot of things have started to feel somehow meaningless. I'm increasingly struggling to find things that genuinely excite me. It's difficult to describe this feeling.

For example, when I see people driving expensive cars and showing off everything they own, I wonder what the point of it all is. Everything is temporary. Money, possessions, status, and eventually life itself.

The more I observe and question things, the more I feel that so much of life revolves around the same things over and over again: money, power, status, and the constant pursuit of more. I observe people in different situations and find myself wondering why we behave the way we do.

At the same time, I feel like I've changed as a person. I used to be able to enjoy things, feel proud of what I'd achieved, and have certain dreams for my future. Today, I sometimes struggle with all of that.

Even when everything is going well, I find it difficult to enjoy it. There's often this thought in the back of my mind that a good period will eventually be followed by another major setback. Because of that, it's hard for me to simply feel content and enjoy the moment.

My attitude toward other people has changed, too. I often think that everyone has to find their own path and that I don't want to tell anyone else how to live their life. At the same time, I find myself increasingly questioning what the point of all this is in the first place.

Sometimes I feel like Bitcoin hasn't just given me a new perspective on money, but has also somehow made me emotionally numb.

I know that might sound strange. After all, Bitcoin is supposed to be about financial sovereignty, freedom, and the possibility of living a more independent life. But what good is all of that if, along the way, I lose the ability to enjoy my life in the present?

I don't want this post to be understood as criticism of Bitcoin. What I'm really interested in is what immersing yourself in these topics so deeply can do to your outlook on life.

One more thing: No, my life isn't perfect, in case anyone gets that impression from reading this. I have my own struggles, worries, and problems to deal with, just like everyone else.

So here are my honest questions for you:

- Has anyone here experienced similar thoughts after becoming deeply involved with Bitcoin, monetary systems, or the structures of society?

- Have you ever reached a point where many of the things that excite other people suddenly started to seem meaningless to you?

- How did you manage to rediscover your joy for life and learn to appreciate the little things again?

- How do you stay interested in Bitcoin and the future without losing sight of the life you're actually living right now?

I'm not looking for a discussion about whether Bitcoin will reach $100,000, $200,000, or $1 million. I'm much more interested in your personal experiences and how you deal with these feelings. I'd like to know whether anyone can relate to this inner state of mind.

Maybe someone has been through something similar and can offer me some advice.

Thank you to everyone who takes the time to read this and respond honestly.

Yes I know, I know, nobody knows. And I know that. Nobody has a crystal ball. But In your opinion. A range. Where do you think it’ll be?

Please don’t kill me for the question, I know it’s been asked before, prob a million times, but sentiment changes. I’m just curious what the sentiment and what people’s thoughts / opinions currently are. From where we are now, to 2030 / 2032 and beyond.

Isn't it? I mean... come on.

Keep stacking i guess

Given several self custody issues recently and the fact that I have become too old for self custody, I have converted the last of my bitcoin into Bitcoin ETN/ETP in my pension account, even I can’t touch the fund for a long time.

Adios, it’s been cool when it lasted, all the best to the younger and smarter folks who can still safely self custody real bitcoin, I wish you all the best.

Btc may be antithetical to its origin . Centralization has been achieved (hoarding done by institutional structures w/ more buying power). what’s the point of btc ( no middleman / p2p ) if concentrated w/ those who serve as middleman in every relevant context? (Blackrock etc)

I am using an old iPhone 8 with the Gordian seed tool, and I have been wondering what could possibly be some weaknesses in my setup?

I have deleted all the apps I won’t be using. There’s no phone app, no messaging app, no web browser, no iTunes logged in, no iMessage. All the settings like location sharing, app permissions, data tracking, analytics. Everything is turned off, no WiFi, no SIM card, in airplane mode.

I am currently using sparrow and electrum on my laptop, and blue wallet on my regular phone. Everything is done via airgapped with QR codes. I am ocd as to not allow any other cameras to see these codes.

I have considered having the wireless antenna disabled. If anyone could maybe think of some ways I could better secure this device, I would greatly appreciate the feedback.

I don't usually post stuff like this, but I've been a loyal Apple user since 2008 with over 7 devices on one Apple ID, plus the usual subscriptions (iCloud+, In App purchases, app subscriptions) so this one stung in a specific way.

In June I downloaded an app called "Wasabi Bitcoin & Crypto Wallet" from the official App Store. It looked completely legitimate, normal listing, developer name, screenshots, reviews. It turned out to be an impersonation of the real Wasabi Wallet. Wasabi Wallet is an open-source, desktop-only software that has never had a mobile app. In August, a wallet I'd created inside that fake app was drained in a single transaction; about 0.9 BTC, roughly $53k at the time.

The theft is bad enough. What's been almost as frustrating is that there's no way to actually talk to a person at Apple about it. No phone line, no support chat for this, just web forms (Apple's own "report a problem" page, and their EU "Digital Services Act" reporting portal). I filed a police report. I reported it through every official channel Apple offers. Apple's own review team closed my EU complaint with a one line reply: insufficient information, or no violation found. No further explanation.

One thing that's stuck with me: with the real, open-source Wasabi Wallet, anyone can verify a release is genuine by checking its cryptographic signature on GitHub. On the App Store, there's no equivalent. As a user, you have no way to check that an app is actually from the developer it claims to be. You're just trusting Apple's review process, full stop. That trust is what got me here.

What makes it sting more: Apple's own App Store Review Guidelines, not marketing copy, their actual rulebook for developers say: "These efforts have made Apple's platforms the safest for consumers around the world." That's the exact trust I was operating on.

This isn't a one-off either. Security researchers found dozens of similar fake wallet apps on the App Store this year alone (Kaspersky, April 2026). There's also an ongoing US lawsuit over a nearly identical fake Sparrow Wallet app. I'm not trying to start a pile-on, I still like my Apple devices. I just wish there were an actual way to be heard, and wanted other people to be a bit more careful with anything wallet-related in the App Store, "official" or not.

Happy to answer questions if anyone's curious or has been through something similar.

Cold Storage Self Custody seems the most obvious thing to do but without a third party to assist you with your security - seed phrase management - it seems like one of the biggest challenges - for myself -and - for mass adoption.

Im afraid that a lot more BTC is going to go to the grave with people like me.

The recent technical challenges with wallets are only a sidebar to this - but also relevant.

I am aging (64M) and cannot rely on my memory and health like I once did.

I think thes challenges are going to stall the anticipated growth and potential we have all believed is possible.

No mining, no Bitcoin.

Simple as that.

Hello, does anyone has experience with taking loans from the bank to invest in btc or other crypto assets and then borrowing against those assets to build wealth?
I’m interested if I borrow money from the bank to invest in money appreciating assets, do I look at annual inflation that eats up my debt?
Is it smart to borrow from the bank and stake that amount or to put in liquidity pool for some interest rate?

What are your expeiriences and tips for wealth building methods like this?

Take away the " It woUlD TAkE 100 YeArs or Quantum computers" to crack argument.

Assume AI does get strong enough to crack the network or wallets. With how big the network is now, would a clean fork even be possible? What would prevent the fork from getting cracked also.

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• If you'd like to learn something, ask.
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I see Anthropic has released a free security tool - requires core maintainers to sign up. It'd be reassuring if Bitcoin was in the list!

https://www.anthropic.com/research/launching-opt-in-vuln-finding-service-for-open-source

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This may be the wrong place to ask for financial advice but I figured I would throw it out there. I got a nice chunk of cash sat to the side and some BTC. I got 10k in debt and was considering taking the cash I was initially going to pay off the debt and adding it to my BTC stack. Afterwards, I would take my stack and use it as collateral for a loan. Based on what I found, Coinbase variable rates seems to fluctuate from about 5-13%, which 13% is half the interest rates on my credit cards. Has anyone done this?? Any downsides to doing this besides the obvious if the BTC price drops?? I would be looking to do a loan at about 40-50% LTV.

My understanding is you can expect to lose about 1% when cashing out BTC on an exchange?

Anyone recommend which exchange has the smallest fee s or spread when selling BTC?

Failed Bitcoin mining OP. How much would all this hardware cost? Looks like corporation level volume here.

So after all these wallet problems, which one is still a good choice? Or what's the safest way to hodl?

In order to generate seed phrase in Seedsigner we have two methods. Dice rolls and camera. Which method gives higher entropy?

1. Camera method: Example: Splitting my laptop screen into four or five parts and each one has a different colorful video playing and take a picture?

2. Use dice rolls?

Also, in some newer versions of seedsigner there’s one with a smart card slot which allows you to save the seed phrase into a card for easier use without the need to scan the seed QR every time .. what do you think about it? Is it safe? Does it have any potentials to be hacked or read by other parties equipments?

Thank you

First the coldcard retirement attack, now the ledger supply chain attack. Hearts go out to the folks who used these devices.

In the case of coinkite, we learned how outspoken, arrogant, and duplicitous the founder rodolfo novak acted regularly. Including how he used many fake accounts on social media to prop up the image of "the best" and controlled several websites which acted like friendly guides and pointed users at his own compromised products.

What will we learn about ledger?

This seems like a more sophisticated attack that took a lot of money or expertise. Before today I would have laughed if someone mentioned a screen reading wire, esim, and supply chain attack. Surprised.

Yeti cold 2.0 gets you setup with the best system for all of it l. You know core is being reviewed by thousands of people at a time not a small team.

I’ll
Never go back to a hardware wallet ever again. Ledger also has backdoors to extract your seed which most people aren’t aware of. Cold card had bad gen. Trezor recently had database hacked and device tampered with. Ledger had device tampered with and people lost funds. Tangem has just been hacked.

This is all recent month or two. The hardware wallet industry makes their money by rug pulling you. Look into a retirement attack, that’s exactly what played out with coldcard.

the way i buy coin currently is i get lightning network BTC from an exchange specific to my country, this gets sent to a strike wallet, then i get strike to send me actual BTC (this is the cheapest way for me to get coin, as I pay 1% on the exchange and nothing for the transfer)

I was just wondering, when people launder BTC and mix it or whatever, what is to stop either my local exchange (which deals in both BTC and lightning) or strike ending up with some, and sending it to me when i buy, I would have no way to check this before receiving the funds, and it could compromise my entire stack which sits on one wallet

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when I look into the commun I fell like 90% of you just holding them btc in cold wallet. yes I know about security it’s the best but I am really feel like lonely about stacking mine and generate some interest until the btc get higher (like new Ath) again?

Hi everyone!

I actually wanted to ask what is going on with hardware wallets over the past few months, or more specifically, throughout 2026.

To be honest, I have never seen this many security incidents in such a short period of time. From Ledger and Trezor to Tangem, Coldcard, D'Cent Wallet, and others, it seems like the entire hardware wallet industry is facing serious security challenges.

And now we're hearing about devices being shipped with SIM cards installed and fake devices potentially making their way to customers. This is getting ridiculous.

Of course, hacks and security incidents have always happened, but I don't remember seeing so many different wallet manufacturers being affected within such a short period.

What is actually causing all of this? Is there something specific driving this wave of attacks in 2026, or is it simply that these incidents are getting more attention than they used to?

I'd genuinely like to hear your thoughts and opinions on what's happening in the hardware wallet industry right now.

I understand that its always been advised to source a hardware wallet directly from the manufacturer, never from amazon or a reseller, and ive obeyed those recommendations.

But why is the manufacturer to be trusted either?

Say a hardware wallet from Trezor, who seem to have been top standard for many years. Even their old models appear to have used entropy of multi sources, but is the next attack going to shock everyone and be one of these companies directly sourced hardware.

Should we be switching back to an old linux laptop with no connection to the internet and perhaps using just core software for wallet creation? At least that software has hopefully been throughly audited by the larger bitcoin community?

I am just curious as I (25M) currently use Fidelity as my stock brokerage and Coinbase/Kraken as my crypto exchange. For me, I just don't like Robinhood and knew about the Gamestop/AMC fiasco and their PFOF system and spreads. RH's customer service also leaves a lot to be desired. My cousin (31M) told me he is a genius investor and financial advisor but I have seen his account dip from 250,000 USD in 2017 to 50,000 USD in 2026 due to contrarian trading.

My cousin (who has an SAT of 1350 on a 2400 scale, not a 1600 scale) put tens of thousands of USD in personal loans into Robinhood, only uses Robinhood, and will not switch to another platform. He owes over half a million in student and personal loans after having dropped out of pharmacy school 2 weeks before finishing his final course in Summer of 2019 (6 years in, having finished x out of x+1 courses, aka 1 course remaining). My cousin is now a W2 long haul truck driver making 90k a year in a 70 hour workweek and has been on the road for 6 years, staying in the same company. He stated that he will never leave trucking or pay his student loans and only pay off the minimum in his 350k student loans, and will only quit trucking and enter real estate once he becomes a multi-millionaire.

My cousin stated that the reason why some wealthy and affluent individuals use Schwab, Fidelity, Morgan Stanley/E-Trade, Goldman Sachs, Vanguard, and IBKR is because they are forced to by their companies because their 401k is attached to it. He stated that they are willing to switch to Robinhood, but are stuck in these other platforms. He stated that the taxes on Robinhood are far simpler in format than the others, and he could use Robinhood on his phone whilst hauling a truck on the road. My cousin argued that it was the trader's fault for the Gamestop and AMC fiasco and that they should have not invested in it and looked at the company fundamentals. My cousin also argued that if an asset went up even 1 percent, it is too late as the ship sailed and you should only buy the dip.

And the population will be switched to the new financial system of digital programmable currency.

They'll accept, because they'll have no choice.

Bitcoin in self custody, and those holding physical assets will be the least effected by this.

Do not let amplified news of self custody failures shake you from owning and managing your own keys. Remain diligent and self sovereign as humanly possible or become subordinate to whatver the future pivots you into.

Curious your thoughts?

Beyond its limited supply what do you think makes bitcoin unique compares to others forms of money?

I recently purchased the "Freedom Builder" program by The Bitcoin Family / Freedom Academy through the Whop platform for €4,000. It quickly became clear that the content of the course was deeply disappointing; the vast majority of the material is blatantly AI-generated and does not offer the quality you would expect for such a massive purchase price.

When I formally requested a refund within the legal European 14-day cooling-off period through the Whop Resolution Center, a highly aggressive and misleading retention process was launched by their sales team (High Ticket Closers).

Heavy psychological pressure was put on me via WhatsApp for days. They demanded that I jump on a mandatory phone call with a manager before they could "process the refund," which is legally completely false. The absolute low point was when the manager tried to blackmail me into manually cancelling my official Whop dispute. He blatantly lied, claiming that I could "always reopen the case later," solely hoping that I would throw away my consumer protection so they could keep the €4,000 for good.

I stood my ground, refused to fall for their manipulation over the phone, and let the official Whop procedure run its course. Exactly 7 minutes before the hard deadline set by Whop, the company backed down and had to accept the refund to avoid platform sanctions.

My money is now on its way back, but I want to warn everyone: be very careful with the smooth talk of The Bitcoin Family. The content is mediocre, and the moment you want to exercise your legal rights, their closers will try to deceive you with highly unethical practices and lies. Don't fall for it!

Has anyone else also here been trading BTC and basing there trades of key levels + liquidation heatmaps levels ?

It’s a little strategy which works out with tight stop losses so wondering if anyone does anything similar

My wallet have several address, but I'd like to move bitcoin from a specific address to another address. Is this possible?

Hey everyone!

Everybody knows that on a Trezor, you can change your device wallpaper. So, I decided to make a website where you can find clean, manually approved wallpapers from artists all around the world—all specially designed to work on the Trezor Model One.

If you want to join us and help build a great library of custom pixel art specifically for the Trezor Model One, check it out at https://trezorart.org! You will automatically be given the "Tester" role in our Discord and any suggestions are greatly appreciated!

Find a way to increase your income without being too miserable.

Spend less than you make and divest US ponzi dollars by saving in Bitcoin in self custody.

Work on other aspects of your life to increase your well-being. Diet, relationships, hobby, etc

You'll never find happiness with the rampant fiat fetish on display in this sub. Truly sad we have this technology and instead of trying to build a world where we might be able to use it in a circular economy, most sit looking at charts obsessing over how many US dollars they can trade it for.

Create something, offer it up for Bitcoin. Provide value to someone, ask for Bitcoin. Real adoption happens in the streets.

It doesnt matter if Bitcoin makes you "rich", most idiots will happily trade it back for collapsing fiat immediately before they'll need Bitcoin most.

The recent ledger attack where the hackers supposedly installed a sim that spied slowly on the display and recorded the seedphrase. Some people are suggesting that it's better go to seedless with your self-custody setup since that will keep your seed from getting recorded anywhere.

I currently use a wallet with Shamir's Secret Sharing so it goes seedless by default. Anyone trying to mess with the hardware will have to modify more than 1 part of the device and doing that in a card with ana EAL6+ chip shouldn't be possible.

That is what I believe makes atleast my setup immune to such attacks. Curious to know what others think and if there are better solutions to this.

If CryptoBilis is a reseller of cold wallets of different varieties then why was Ledger the only one that was tampered with? Could this be that Ledger was the device that could have easily tampered with in comparison to the others OR were they tampered with before CryptoBilis recieved them?

Hey Colleagues

In my office I get a 19:1 odd if I dare to bet against the crowd - which thinks Bitcoin will Peak below 250k - on BTC crossing 250k until 2030.

I need to place the bet on Monday and its backed by people that can afford it and Can be trusted.

Seriously, I would think the likely peak is in the range of 175k-225k, but the odds are just too attractive, aren‘t they?

Would you bet 10k on it?

Ray

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I’ve been researching Bitcoin ATMs lately, and something I’ve been wondering about is how much of the business happens behind the scenes. Buying a machine seems pretty straightforward compared to everything else involved. You still need a good location, enough transaction volume, banking arrangements, regulatory compliance, maintenance, and a blah blah...

I am kinda lost rn, so my questions:

What’s the hardest part of running a Bitcoin ATM business that most beginners completely overlook?

And if you were starting again today, would you still do it? And how if yeah?

Curious to hear some honest experiences. Thx a lot.

I would greatly appreciate any response.

Those acronyms abbreviate Market Value to Realized Value, Spent Output Profit Ratio, and Net Unrealized Profit/Loss.

Whats going on with this app, ive tried to verify 3 times and it wont go through.

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I’ve been selling covered calls on some of my ibit positions. I’ve been using the premiums to buy more bitcoin or rebalance my portfolio.

I’m going to get assigned today for the first time. Only about 30 cents above my strike price rn so still a decent win with a 1.2$ premium collected

Plan to buy some cash secured puts at the same strike at market open tomorrow probably around 21DTE

Biggest downside is big upwards movements can wipe out weeks or maybe even months of premiums. And if bitcoin goes the opposite way I’m happy just stacking more at a cheaper price while slowing down the options trading.

To hedge this strategy I bought some leaps when bitcoin was most recently at 62k which will expire dec of this year. I also leave a nest egg of bitcoin that i only contribute to and will never sell.

Happy to hear everyone’s thoughts, questions, tips etc

Following the recent Ledger news, I’m reviewing my long-term Bitcoin cold-storage setup.
I’m considering moving from a traditional single hardware-wallet setup to something with less dependence on one device, seed or manufacturer.
The setup I’m researching is:
2-of-3 multisig
Hardware signers from different manufacturers
Bitcoin-only devices where possible
Trezor / BitBox / potentially a third independent signer
Sparrow or Electrum as coordinator
Physical backups stored separately
A smaller separate wallet for BTC that needs to remain easily accessible
I’d like to hear from people who have actually been running similar setups long-term.
Multisig or single hardware wallet + passphrase?
Which hardware signers would you choose today?
Sparrow or Electrum for multisig?
How do you distribute devices and backups geographically without making recovery overly complicated?
Have you tested recovery after intentionally removing one signer from the setup?
How do you handle inheritance?
What would you change if you were building your cold-storage setup again today?
What are the biggest mistakes people make when moving to multisig?
I’m particularly interested in setups people have personally used, rather than theoretical recommendations.
For obvious reasons I won’t disclose holdings, wallet addresses, seed information or physical storage locations, and I won’t respond to DMs offering wallet/recovery/security services.
Please keep advice in the public thread.

In the next two-tree years I want to buy a house, because it sucks paying rent when you could be paying off your own mortgage instead.

In order to do so I would either have to sell some (or most) of my BTC, but then again that doesn’t feel right either due to the long-term potential it has that I believe in.

Are there other ways I could use my BTC to finance a property without having to sell?

Not buying BTC on an exchange. I mean actually using it to pay for something.

Was it worth it, or do you still think about how many sats you spent? ????

Sold all my crypto yesterday :(

I got lucky and doubled my money over the past 3 years, but I realized crypto just isn't for me anymore.

After having 2 kids, my risk tolerance has changed a lot. Every major price drop caused me a ton of stress, and I just don't think it's worth it anymore.

Anyone else had a similar experience?

Assume Bitcoin’s model is the right one for money. Now imagine a country copies the code exactly: same rules, same supply cap, no premine, no admin keys, no control. The government’s only role is declaring it legal tender, accepting it for taxes, and paying salaries in it.

The argument for it: if the country adopts BTC, about 95% of the supply is already mined and held by early adopters, so citizens have to buy in from them. With its own clone, its citizens become the early adopters instead.

Problems I can see:

• Early mining rewards would go to whoever has the hashpower on day one, likely big foreign mining farms
• Existing Bitcoin miners could easily 51% attack a new chain using the same algorithm
• Since the state is the main source of demand, it could effectively choose which fork counts later, so the cap might not be credible

Is there a fatal flaw I’m missing, or could this actually work better than adopting BTC directly?

PS: I used AI to translate my thoughts; English is not my first language.

Hi I want to use bitcoin core as one of the multisig signers (along with hwws) to diversify multisig signers using sparrow as coordinator wallet. I am open to other coordinator wallets if it works there and its open source/well known.

Is this possible? Is it easy? Is there a guide? I could not find any info on this. Your input is much appreciated.

Finally achieved the 0.1 BTC

Keep stacking!

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Is it good time to buy some BTC

I ve been hearing how BTC (crypto) will converge with AI since some time last year when Tom Lee started talking about it. Very recently I started hearing Jordi Visser talking about it, too and he goes even further saying that crypto has always been destined for AI economy.
I am taking everything with a grain of salt, I am trying to separate narrative from truth. However, both of them are pretty convincing. The BTC white paper says it is “…peer to peer digital cash” so that fits ok.
Whats everyone thinking, folks?

87k a almost 90k is still. A loss cause almost dosent make you anything so if u thought it was gonna go up ur laughable

Given that under the new German tax reform, anyone who buys BTC before 2026 is exempt from capital gains tax, do you think there will be a massive influx of capital into Bitcoin—especially considering Germany is one of the top three European countries for Bitcoin investment?

I have tracked BTC since 2017 and became more committed in 2020. I have reached a stage where I share less because those around me seem less concerned about their future and prefer the simplest path. ( The hard part is that I want to share what I learn and the potential it has but I just know it will fall on deaf ear so I just don’t wanna bother people or waste my energy.)

Second, I feel pleased when BTC rises and my holding price increases. Yet I am equally content when it drops, since that allows me to acquire more at a lower cost. I intend to hold until 2030 and may never sell my entire stack.

I just woke up and noticed BTC back at 80k, so I turned to my wife and said, “btc back to 80k yay! That means I can get more for cheaper!”

Does anyone else feel this way?

Whenever you think things are gonna go bad just remember to zoom out and remember BTC will always go up.
Happy stacking ????

The 2030s will be the decade AI takes over so many information centric industries.

AI agents and AI avatars wont use geographically restricted bank accounts. They will use programmable money that is uncensorable, instant, and global by nature.

Then once bitcoin and lightning and whatever else is the globally dominant money used by AI humans will have no choice but to adopt the same monetary medium or isolate themselves from the global economy.

Bitcoin has always been inevitable but the rise of AI is speeding up the inevitability of bitcoins global adoption.

By 2035 every human on earth will understand bitcoin is the money of the future.

Is 100 euros a month into BTC from today until December 2040 a good amount please? I am very new to this. Please be nice and tell me honestly please what you think as experts. TIA :)

As the title says, I have about £9000 on etoro and £2500 on coinbase, I don’t know if they are the safest place to store and buy it on. I have and am googling it to educate myself but wanted to know where others have theirs.

was going through the list to verify my physically printed pills are complete and noticed.

The lightning network is a second-layer solution on top of the Bitcoin blockchain that enables quick, cheap and scalable Bitcoin payments.

Here is the place to discuss and learn more about lightning!

Ask your questions about lightning

Provide reviews, feedback, comparisons of LN apps, services, websites etc

Learn about new LN features, development, apps

Link to good quality resources (articles, wikis etc)

Resources:

• Here is an awesome list of resources: https://bitcoinfo.org/lightning.html

• Want to test out your lightning fire power? tip the Bitcoin devs! https://bitcoindevlist.com/

• Previous threads: Search

• Lnbook getting closer towards being finished and can already be seen at: https://github.com/lnbook/lnbook

• Lightning Dedicated YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/renepickhardt

• Also there is the playlist by chaincode labs: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpLH33TRghT17_U3as2P3vHfAGL8pSOOY

• Lightning stores: https://www.lightningnetworkstores.com/

• Learn more and talk about lightning right here in r/Bitcoin, r/bitcoinbeginners and r/thelightningnetwork

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Not hacks you read about. Your own near-miss.

Mine was almost tossing an old notebook during a move. Seed phrase was on page 40, between grocery lists. Found it by luck.

Everyone talks about price. Nobody talks about how many coins are one bad cleaning day away from gone.

What was your close call, and what did you change after?

has anyone else have this happen in the last hour?

just curious if anyone has ever been able to recover or get into one of the old wallet.dat files from btc core. don’t have high hopes of getting it back, but would love to pursue if it’s possible. with the help of ai, this is what I can provide for clarity. like many cases I cannot for the life of me figure out what the password is. it’s from a very long time ago. obviously dms will be ignored. I see that btcrecover is a good tool to try, any advice?

• 57,344-byte legacy Berkeley DB wallet

• BDB BTREE v9

• Wallet version: 40,000

• 102 unique encrypted private keys

• All are old-style uncompressed public keys

• 1 encrypted master key

• 9 wallet transaction records

• Earliest timesmart: June **, 2011

• Latest: August **, 2011

• Default key = the *.** BTC address

• The *.** BTC address's private key is definitely encrypted inside the wallet

• Encryption uses SHA-512-based derivation and AES-256-CBC

• 62,313 derivation iterations

Hey everyone,

As the title says I’m looking to get into Bitcoin. Going to start watching videos on it so I actually understand what I’m doing. But, what would you say is the best Bitcoin or ETF to get right now?

For me the scariest part wasn't buying, it was the first time I sent from my own wallet and stared at the address for like five minutes before hitting send.

What was the moment it clicked for you, and what almost scared you off?

That Friday close (23 Jul 1999): 10y at 5.84%, 30y kissing 6%. Today’s 10y is 5.27% — so we still need about half a point to reach that. After that it's price discovery and I think BTC will be in a handsome position

I've been looking more closely at the architecture behind Mostro after deciding to help the MostroEuropa community.

The part I find most interesting isn't simply “no KYC.”

It's the separation of responsibilities.

Communication happens over Nostr. Settlement happens over Lightning. During a trade the seller's sats are committed using a Lightning hold invoice/HTLC rather than being deposited into a conventional exchange account with an internal user balance.

That doesn't make the system trustless. The coordinator still matters, the implementation matters and dispute resolution matters.

But it gives the intermediary less authority than the normal custodial exchange model.

I wrote up why that architecture convinced me to help an independent European coordinator:

https://davidebtc186.substack.com/p/why-i-chose-mostroeuropa-for-peer

I'm particularly interested in one question:

For P2P Bitcoin markets, which functions actually require an intermediary and which ones can we remove entirely?

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I'm buying bitcoin for the first time. My question is, if I got enough extra money that I wouldn't use for any time soon, is it safe to buy bitcoin with it blindly? I'm a student in Thailand; I got a scholarship at my college and my parents are providing me enough for daily expenses. So, I wanna invest the rest of my money I make from teaching in bitcoin. Please give me suggestions.

OK...so I bought some BC on Venmo to send to a friend overseas and when I went to send it, it's stating that I have 0 BC available to send. WTH?

Best way to sell .9 btc please it hurts pretty bad buying with intention of 1 coin before selling but times have hit a hard spot and need a new vehicle while out of work looking for employment have to have a car so im taking the hit being what I invested it for but now having trouble with them allowing it now taking atleast 24hrs to complete kyc verification I need best way to get 8k if its multiple smaller or moving from ledger to other wallet in crypto(. )Com help in any available tyi

No bitcoin sold got a personal loan instead thank you for all the comments im never selling

It's lower level than money. It is the system that allows you to have electronically traceable bearer instruments. It allows for currencies, equities, bonds, options, futures, swaps and all the other financial instruments that make up our capital market to exist.

Market Infrastructure is one of our oldest, widely distributed technologies. It's a list that doesn't change.

It's one job is transaction finality. This is handled by a clearing house in the old world that is sunsetting. We need a list, that has an immutable history. This was long sought to be an impossible computer science problem until bitcoin came a long.

If you have ever sent a international wire, you have experienced this. A alpha numeric address and a transaction that can't be reversed under any circumstance. Wires hit the clearing house(s).

When we have market infrastructure in place, it allows for price discovery. We know when we trade, the trade can't be reversed. The transaction finality is the requirement to have price discovery.

So when you are buying btc, you are investing in the most important technology that is often stable for centuries. Market infrastructure rarely changes.

You are all early. Tech Infrastructures, like information, communication, energy and logistics take about 50-60 years and have 5 stages. It's called a Perez cycle. Irruption, speculative frenzy, turning point, synergy, and maturity.

Plays out the same way, every time.

BTC is in the turning point. ETFs, stable coins, its being adopted by the incumbent industries.

When it hits synergy, that is when the omega candle happens. That is probably in 5-10 years. I think AI Agents will be driving that because they wont be signing up for banking or brokerage accounts. They will be making their currencies, options, equities, bonds, futures and other exotic financial instruments on top of btc.

I encourage you to think about this for a moment, and spread this message, the comparison and disruption to the clearing house is the apt analogy.

Financial systems are built in layers of institutions that have separate responsibilities. Bitcoin disrupts the lowest layer, the clearing house.

This is why bitcoin's ascent is inevitable. It's taking over everything and the nation states can't stop or slow it, they can't even survive it.

Future is going to be weird.

There is no technology that is more powerful or important than market infrastructure. That is why bitcoin is the most valuable thing you can own.

I have a large amount of capital freeing up I want to put into bitcoin. From a checking account to a cold wallet what is the best and cheapest option to get it done?

I have been using coinbase with a pro account for years to dca and make smaller lump sum buys, currently I have a .9% fee on up to 10k a month (fees goes up after that first 10k but not sure to what). I will be surpassing that 10k with this buy and obviously want to pay as little as possible in fees. I am based in the US.

Before 2014, anyone who wanted to put data on chain encoded it as fake addresses, and those outputs sit in every node's UTXO set forever. Bitcoin Core 0.9.0 added OP_RETURN as a prunable alternative, first with a 40-byte cap, raised to 80 in 0.11. That ceiling stood for a decade. Bitcoin Core 30.0 raised the default to 100,000 bytes in October 2025. None of it is consensus, only relay policy.

I wrote this up for ChainQuery with the RPC calls shown so you can rerun them on your own node: block 350,000 next to block 840,000 with getblockstats, the Counterparty, Omni and Open Assets envelopes, and the VeriBlock episode, when one project was pushing up to a fifth of daily transactions through this one opcode. For the short version of what the opcode is: https://www.learnbitcoin.com/glossary/opreturn

I’ve been a bit lax securing my bitcoin and now is the time… I’ve got to move it to the cold wallet
I don’t have great knowledge about any of it to be honest, and I just need something which is going to be simple to use & secure
Ai has suggested bitnox02 and jade butni don’t trust ai hat much
Any help would be great to solve this

I have stacked my way to 0,1 Bitcoin. Ain’t much but still is. End of message

As citizens, it is our duty to share what protects us, one way or another.
Bitcoin is one of those protections.

Bitcoin - Hold It Close (Song)

[Verse 1]
Pocket full of dust and dreams
I learned the hard way, count the seams
Cold wallet tucked in the drawer
I was broke, now I want more
Late nights staring at the chart
Heart beat fast, hand on the start
Every dip felt like a test
I kept my chin up, did my best

[Pre-Chorus]
Up and down, I don't blink
Red and green, I still think
Hold tight when the room gets loud
I don't fold, I stand my ground

[Chorus]
Bitcoin, Bitcoin, hold it close
Bitcoin, Bitcoin, watch it grow
I came up from the bottom floor
Now I don't panic anymore
Bitcoin, Bitcoin, hold it close
Bitcoin, Bitcoin, let it roll

[Verse 2]
Friend said sell, I said wait
Moon on my mind, not the bait
Bought a little on a cold Monday
Then the whole world looked my way
Bills in the pile, rent due soon
Still I kept my eyes on June
Tiny stack in a quiet room
Turned that hope into a bloom

[Pre-Chorus]
Up and down, I don't blink
Red and green, I still think
Hold tight when the room gets loud
I don't fold, I stand my ground

[Chorus]
Bitcoin, Bitcoin, hold it close
Bitcoin, Bitcoin, watch it grow
I came up from the bottom floor
Now I don't panic anymore
Bitcoin, Bitcoin, hold it close
Bitcoin, Bitcoin, let it roll

[Bridge]
If it falls, I learn again
If it rises, I win again
Paper hands can chase the wave
I keep mine for another day

[Final Chorus]
Bitcoin, Bitcoin, hold it close
Bitcoin, Bitcoin, watch it grow
I came up from the bottom floor
Now I don't panic anymore
Bitcoin, Bitcoin, hold it close
Bitcoin, Bitcoin, let it roll

Been DCAing very small amounts and have now reached around 0.01 BTC.

At this amount, is it worth moving the BTC to a private cold wallet, or is it reasonable to keep it on an exchange like Binance for now?

I generally follow a simple rule: don’t get involved in things you don’t understand yourself. Cold storage is something I’m still learning about, and it feels like there’s always some new potential risk or failure mode that could come up and affect the funds.

For Trezor-type hardware wallets, I feel that relying on a third party always introduces some degree of risk, whether it’s a wallet company or an exchange. That’s why I’m more interested in creating a completely offline wallet myself using an offline device, rather than relying on a dedicated wallet company.

For those who have gone down this route: at 0.01 BTC, would you self-custody, or would you consider the amount too small to justify the added complexity/risk?

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So I ended up going all in on buying asic miners, in my fleet I currently have 2 s21 pro 235th version bought for 1000 each both are in good working condition, 2 s21 pros 245th for 1700 each, 3 whatsminer m61s for 750 each, 1 m61 for 550, 1 m60 for 500. All machines are in good and working order, my electricity rate is 0.07kwh. Assuming there are no breakdowns with my machines how well did I do for sourcing?

???? The bull story

1. Tokenized real-world assets are becoming a huge narrative.... is positioned around bringing traditional financial assets—especially U.S. Treasuries and other real-world assets—onto blockchain. If tokenization becomes a major part of global finance, ... is sitting directly in that lane..

i have €0 in my bank account and wanted dead by daylight, then remembered i had like €2 of bitcoin sitting on an old ledger in my closet
deposited it into a crypto casino because apparently i’m a financial genius. somehow got it to €6, but that wasn’t enough for the minimum withdrawal, so i put the entire €6 on a coinflip
somehow won and cashed out €12.40 immediately lol
withdrew through lightning to phoenix, got hit with liquidity fees and ended up with 14,696 sats (~€11)
dbd was €7.99, easy right? except steam doesn’t take bitcoin
tried buying a €10 steam card on coingate: 15,947 sats. i had 14,696. literally 1,251 sats short
eventually found a €10 eneba card on bitrefill for 14,050 sats, paid with lightning, redeemed it and bought a dbd steam key for €6.69
so i somehow turned €2 of forgotten bitcoin into dead by daylight + €3.31 left on eneba
bank account is still €0
all this shit for an €8 game lmao
and no i’m not doing the casino part again, i got stupidly lucky

Institutional owners continue to buy BTC with amounts unreachable for individual person. What if one day BTC is owned almost entirely from companies and funds? What will happen then?

Today I tried to transfer a few grand from my bank account to Cashapp to stack some sats but my bank blocked the transaction as if they don’t want me to move my money out of the account.

We don’t truly own our money in our bank accounts. Bitcoin with self custody is the only way!

Bitcoin's limited supply remains one of its most discussed monetory features.

The Human Brain Isn’t Built for Trillions. Let’s Translate Money into Time.

If $1 equals 1 second:

1 million seconds: 11.5 days (less than a two-week vacation)

1 billion seconds: 31.7 years (a full working career)

1 trillion seconds: 31,688 years (predates all of recorded human history)

Now look at U.S. fiat debt:

$1.3 trillion (Annual interest payment alone): ~41,200 years

To count just one year of interest on the national debt at $1 per second, the clock would have had to start around 39,000 BC….when Neanderthals still walked the Earth.

$40 trillion (Total national debt): 1,267,524 years

Counting our national debt in seconds reaches back over 1.2 million years… long before Homo sapiens existed.

Now Look at Bitcoin:

21 million BTC (The absolute hard cap): 243 days (~8 months)
Every Bitcoin that will ever be mined, held, or traded fits inside under eight months of seconds.

Bitcoin had obituaries in the first 5 years of existence. It did not die. Nocoiners must have noticed that, yet they did not buy.

Bitcoin was the most googled word in 2017. Everybody heard it by then. No excuses of the type "I did not know", starting that date.

In 2020, everybody was given a stimmy check that a lot of smart ppl converted to Bitcoin right teh fuk away. Everybody knew about it. Free monmey, that nocoiners "missed" to turn into Bitcoin. Everybody who took on the chance is in huge profit.

1. Bitcoin at its lowest, the criminal games of Genslerbitch give yet another chance for buying Bitcoin. Sting of inflation evident. If a nocoiner missed this one, there are no excuses.

Why was Bitcoin’s supply issuance designed to halve every four years (210000 blocks) instead of gradually reducing the block reward every block by a tiny amount to achieve essentially the same overall issuance curve without such a sudden supply shock? Was it mainly for simplicity and predictability, or is there a deeper economic or technical reason for having these discrete halvings?

I'm researching a specific question about crypto security:

If someone physically coerces the legitimate owner into authorizing a transaction, what protection does the owner actually have?

I'm less interested in theoretical attacks and more interested in how people with meaningful crypto holdings actually structure their security today.

For example:

• Multisig
• Hardware wallets
• Passphrases / hidden wallets
• Duress or decoy wallets
• Timelocks
• Spending limits
• Geographically separated keys
• Trusted third parties / guardians
• Keeping only a small amount readily accessible

My main research question is:

What is the biggest weakness or failure mode of the approaches above when the attacker has physical control of the owner?

And a second question:

Is there any setup today that makes it technically impossible for a coerced owner to immediately move their long-term holdings to a new address?

I'm interested in real-world setups and experiences, not product recommendations.

If you've thought seriously about this threat model, I'd be especially interested in what you currently do — and what you still don't feel comfortable with.

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Hi everyone.

Kian Hoss once posted a video on his Story featuring people dancing in the background, with phrases or words like "BUY BTC" or "Inflation is a hidden tax" appearing in white text in the foreground, alternating. There was music playing in the background. The video had a retro style—so, rather low quality.

Does anyone happen to have that video and could send it to me?

Many thanks to everyone.

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I've been larning about bitcoin recently and some of the concepts were confusing at fast

for those who've been learning about it for a while what explanation or idea helped bitcoin finally click for you

I'd love to hear your experience.

I hope he/she/they go die in buddest ways, took my children's life away, like fuck you you dog shit cunt !

I bought $50 worth of Bitcoin last week. I am now checking the charts every 3 minutes, reading macroeconomics news, and analyzing Jerome Powell's facial expressions.

If it drops by $2, I panic. If it goes up by $5, I start looking at Lamborghini dealerships online.

Is this what being a whale feels like? ????????????

Btc is a bitch

I made a little browser game inspired by Bitcoin where every move is just heads or tails.
You start with $100 (play money, no real money ever). Each flip is a true 50/50, but you choose the leverage, from 1× up to 50×. Win 3 in a row and 100× unlocks. Bank your winnings into assets that earn income, sell them at the pawn shop when things go wrong, and push your empire from Earth to Space to the Flipside.
The odds never change. The only thing you control is how much risk you take and when you walk away.
No download, no signup, works on phone and desktop:
https://coinofconquest.com
There's a high score board for peak wealth, longest win streak, and longest loss streak. Post your best run below, I'm curious how far people get. Feedback very welcome!

So I'm looking for Saving Private Ryan Meme videos of BTC from back in the 2010-2016 era from Twitter/X. If you know them, you know them and remember them.

I posted in this subreddit about finding some older ones a month ago, and I just got comments back saying "learn how to search". Well, I'm fook'n trying and can't find A SINGLE ONE. HALP!

One person, commented and said "you idoit. Here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQJDhPV78_U" and that is STILL the only video I can find. Thank YOU, whoever you are <3 .

I sincerely appreciate and value his insult while providing me with the video. PLEASE, insult and link me to these old classical meme gems. I can't FUCKING find them........

Here is the only one I can find ; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQJDhPV78_U (Thank you to whom found it for me <3 )

Does anyone have any others or know where the FOOK I can find them. There so so soooo good.

Thanks in advance

Sincerely,

We keep running into the same mismatch when we read supply talk on here. Someone quotes a big round number for coins outstanding and treats it like depth. It is not depth. It is a stock of outputs, most of which are not offered.

A UTXO is just a discrete chunk of bitcoin that has not been spent yet. The set can grow because people split change, or shrink when they consolidate. Neither move, by itself, tells you how much bitcoin would trade if the tape got hit. Liquidity is the marginal slice: coins whose owners are willing to sell into the book, or whose bids are actually resting there. Aged outputs that have not moved in years are inventory. Dust that costs more in fees to spend than it is worth is closer to clutter than to float.

Fees are the quiet part of that story. Miners do not get paid to make the UTXO set tidy. They get paid to include transactions. When fees are low, consolidation is cheap and some of that clutter can be swept back into spendable outputs. When fees are high, small outputs stay stuck, and the coins that clear are the ones attached to owners who care enough to pay. The incentive is local and unsentimental. It does not line up with a clean circulating supply figure.

We are not claiming we can see who will sell. Coin age and output size are clues about constraints, not a forecast. Cycle narratives like to pretend the float is a dial someone turns. In practice the dial is whoever shows up with a spendable output and a price they will take, against whoever is bidding. That gap is why a quiet order book and a huge headline supply can sit next to each other without contradicting.

If you are marking risk off the full stock of coins, you are marking a warehouse, not the aisle that is open today. How do you separate coins that have not moved from coins that will not move when fees spike? We still do not have a clean answer. NFA.

In May 2021 China banned bitcoin mining nationally. This reduced Chinas hash rate to the Bitcoin network from approximately 46% down to around 12% today. China is one of the most surveilled countries in the world. So how can still 12 % hashrate come from China. My theory is that it is actually the government accumulating bitcoin themselves though mining. They know what bitcoin is, and cannot risk standing on the sideline if bitcoin continues to grow and take play a bigger role. But if they openly say they buy or mine bitcoin, then it would contribute to bitcoins growth and globalization. Thats why I suspect they use cheap excess energy to mine. Its basicly free money, and insuranse. Thougts on this?

I used Hodl Hodl for the first time to buy BTC with a €150 SEPA bank transfer.

The contract on Hodl Hodl stated:

Price: 83,789.44 EUR
Buy: 0.00179020 BTC
Pay: 150 EUR

I received the equivalent of only €130 worth of Bitcoin, so this trade effectively cost me €20.

Is it possible that the seller sent less Bitcoin to the escrow wallet?

Of these €20, how much is the seller’s profit and how much goes to the platform?

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Looking for advice. I sell some stuff online and would like to know if accepting crypto as payment would be good in general? ​​​​​​​​​​

I have a 0.5 Lealana physical bitcoin, curious where the best place to sell it would be to get the best premium. It’s unredeemed has original box and coa. Did some searching and seen a couple at auction houses but that was about it.

Thanks for all replies.

I thought I'd share my journey and thoughts. I was into bitcoin relatively early (2012) and was fortunate enough to have been a hodler into the 2017 rally and exited at the top. I've been lucky enough to make good investments from bitcoin into real estate and some startups and stocks.

Life almost 10 years later has been comfortable and all but a dream. Reconstructing what brought me here, I think it would be harder now than before despite it "looking" more attainable.

Cryptocurrency which is more popular than ever now has become this dragon investor's chase. Away from the milieu of scams and scammers, earnest investors are hoping for the next big rally but I don't see anyone really planning beyond their imagined gains in personal and public interactions.

As a true believer in the concept of Bitcoin I never sold even after the first few rallies to $1,000 even though I was up almost 80x when that first happened. I regularly bought the dips on occasion up until 2015, because I had conviction in blockchain and bitcoin, not because I just wanted to get rich. Getting rich was the consequence of the conviction.

I was a paper millionaire and still going to work in 2016.

When I sold the majority of my bitcoin, I still went to work. I didn't make any major lifestyle changes and instead did research on real estate, taxes, stocks and where to invest fiat. When I did quit a few months later it was non-climatic.

I held my stance and stayed away from the ICOs and exchange explosion and just kept watching from the distance. I wasn't tempted by any of it because I already made a plan in my last months at work and chose to stick to it. I'm certain that saved me because some of my friends who were also believers lost it all in the ruckus by chasing the dragon and thinking they'd go from millionaire to billionaire in the same way. Sometimes, most times, it just happens once and it's best to call it luck and get out. So make a plan for the one time and stick to it.

Around 10–11 months ago, I gave a friend approximately $3,600 to invest in Bitcoin when it was at $86K.

Ever since, whenever I’ve asked for my money back, he’s made excuses, saying Bitcoin crashed and he couldn’t return it.

Now that Bitcoin is back around $86K, I asked him again. This is what he told me:

I used Bybit. And it’s not as simple as just waiting for Bitcoin to stay above $86K. Since the money has been stuck for so long, the app keeps charging fees and adding them up. If I withdraw the money now, those fees will be deducted from the original $3,600, so I won’t be able to return the full amount. That’s why I want Bitcoin to stay above $86K for a few days or a week, so I can recover those fees and return the full $3,600.”

I’m genuinely very concerned. I don’t know much about crypto, and I don’t understand how any of this works. Does Bybit actually charge ongoing fees for holding Bitcoin? Does his explanation make any sense, or is he just making excuses to keep my money?

I’m starting to worry that he’s taking advantage of me because I’m a girl and assumes I don’t know any better.

Please, if anyone has experience with Bybit or crypto, I’d really appreciate your advice. I’m genuinely worried about losing my money. this is all i have!!

If this finally hits 100k, I'm finally putting a down payment and becoming a homeowner. I believe plzz

Recently moved from Europe to Sydney and hold a decent amount of crypto. I have used OKX for 3 years and want to get some advice for the best CEX in Australia. Fully regulated is preferable!

I’m reading the book “The Sovereign Individual” , published in 1997, and the authors argue that “cybercash”, since cryptocurrencies wasn’t a thing then they referred to it as cyber cash, removes the state's ability to confiscate wealth through inflation and taxation.

And those who recognize this shift early and move their assets into encrypted, borderless digital money become "Sovereign Individuals" and gaining total control over their capital while traditional and location institutions fall.

I wanted to read this since this book has predicted a lot of what the world is today, not 100% but did nail the cryptocurrency prediction part in 1997, and says that this is basically the future in simple terms. And people who don’t catch it before this transition happens will have a lot of suffering.

This is going to sound crazy and delusional to some but i genuinely think this is the inevitable end with fiat currency collapsing and the government retaliating against cryptos.

Invest the book it also mentions that the governments will turn nasty, they already are, and will try to make restrictions with cryptos but will eventually fail and the people who hold digital assets such as bitcoin in this case, will have the ultimate power and freedom.

Are more people buying BTC every year, or are the numbers going down / staying around the same? isn't this part of the debate that will determine the future success of BTC. Or do yu think it doenst matter how many people own it, as long as it continues? Among the people who do own some, would it be fair to say that the vast majority own between 100 - 5,000 ( and I don't mean individual coins ). :)

I tend to only see people mention that the native TPS for bitcoin is too slow, but are there enough Satoshis to power the entire world economy if bitcoin was used by everyone for day to day transactions?

Like I get that bitcoin can be divided into incredibly small units, but even then, would there be enough bitcoin in circulation for a global bitcoin economy?

is it not a thing yet? i really need some help and tools to avoid getting persecuted by evil forces when i do unlock a virtual treasure chest in the future for some virtual trades. i just want to confuse ownership of my coins without trusting any central coordinator and free myself from the shackles of my oppressors. i will not answer to any DMs

Who here has gone through the mortgage process and had issues because you hold a lot of your assets in Bitcoin? Even if you were able to get the mortgage, what challenges did you have?

The vast majority of every Thai over the age of 10 has a True Wallet. A private Thailand only payment system. Foreigners can join with a passport and a local phone number and Bitrefil bitcoin top up service performs top ups in Thai Baht. Some more KYC required to be able to break out of the ecosystem and pay directly to hotel, restaurant etc bank accounts. However generally unnecessary just ask nicely first "can I pay with my true wallet and its the same."

I know a lot of us are trying to become whole coiners or waiting for the million dollar price tags to hit but once we accomplish those short term goals, are you just selling? Are you stopping your DCA?

Basically what will it take that will finally see you leave the Bitcoin space (good or bad)?

Even though it is not a 100% certain yet, the Netherlands is likely gonna tax unrealized gains for crypto, not stocks though.

I have all my btc on a cold wallet, and i will be forced to sell as it can turn ugly real quick, i just bought a house and a sudden rise to new highs followed by a quick drop, would turn my financial situation in a nightmare, lets say i have 1 btc, and it goes from 100k to 200k, i would have to pay 36 k in taxes even though i didn't sell, now lets say btc goes from 200k back to 80 k, i still need to pay those 36 k in taxes.

Right now with my mortgage i can't risk it, i want to know what you guys think, i just want to hodl and forget, so this situation just removed all the fun from crypto for me, it was basically dca and forget.

Maby i wanna buy btc on the stock market, that isn't taxed on paper gains weirdly enough, same idea but taxed differently.

I have btc on my cold wallet because i liked the idea of it being mine, buying a stock that follows btc price doesn't feel right.

Any ideas?

Just for fun ????

But be honest....

How much do you buy daily/weekly/monthly?

What is your personal opinion if one has a substantial amount of Bitcoin? A 2of3 multi-sig wallet without a password or a single-sig wallet with a complex password?

i have way too much bitcoin to keep on an exchange after getting back into it this bear cycle. what is the best cold storage wallet to get these days as i’ve seen there’s a lot of new ones

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What option would be best?

Live below your means. Grind on your craft. Be frugal. Eat healthy. Get/stay fit. Dismiss all frivolous, status seeking, branded, celebrity bullshit. Save in money they can't fuck with. Be stoic about price. Never panic. Never fomo. Keep it simple. dca, stack, hodl.

Supply is capped at 21 million. Bitcoin's rules that keep it this way are in fact "your rules". You run a node to ensure that "your rules" apply to your stack. Your node will be in consensus with the chain that agrees with your rules. Full stop.

If you don't like my rules, you can all fork off. Node runners know that that is literally how it works.

If you allow your wallet to connect to some other node and thereby delegating all verification, then you are merely a passenger along for the ride on someone else's boat. If your keys are held in custody by another, then you are not even on the boat. You are holding tickets with your ETF friends in the spectator stand.

Run a node and connect your wallet to it. Tighten up your rules.

Run a node. You do not get closer to the economic energy a node places at your fingertips. Not running a node, you could not be further away.